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| TiP wrote: | how many keys did you sell?
how much profit did you make?
how much did you lose?
if profit > loss, you owe a share of that profit to everyone else that YOU scammed
people did not deal with k0m they dealt with YOU
simple questions. there is no need for ad hominem attacks |
funny things is, out of all my sympathetic clients, you are the only one going to such great length in this issue. now u have strayed past your own issue and are decreeing that i should now seek out all my past clients and reimburse them? this means your implying that all of them are in use? what kind of fking witch hunt are u trying to start now
nah dude, its actually quite simple. there are risks in every aspect of life, including and most apparent in a market economy. i never told anyone that i would offer reimbursement for a contingency such as this. your simply butthurt that things arnt going your way and continue to take it out on me, and now you are playing the "nobility" game, saying i should make it right and reimburse everyone i sold keys to. do u know how incredibly stupid u sound? all my clients got to use their keys for a long time, and luckily not everyone is reporting their keys in use, and most certainly not all of them. true, its a very unfortunate happening, that my supplier up and decided to pursue a greedy agenda, but how THE FUK does that become my problem.
Your allocating all your time and energy to come after me, when you could be going after the one u know caused all this. You call me names and try to dirty my name, yet u know absolutely nothing of my sense of resolve. My attempts to seek justice. Ive spent long hours going after this prick k0m, even while shitbugs such as yourself blame me for another persons actions. U claim that i dont see your perspective, but at the same time you do not see mine.
Its not a matter of righteousness to go out and have to take the blame for another persons actions. Your entitiled to your own opinions, but i would call that being stupid. I refuse to play into k0ms hand, and be his "SCAPEGOAT". what does that say about all the "middlemen" in this world? if i do what ur asking to do, all it says is that ppl like us are nothing but worthless pawns to be used. I am my own master now, and i dont take the heat when someone else scams.
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| #22 Posted: 03 Jan 2014 06:22 pm Post subject: |
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you are making k0m a scapegoat for your scam
this is the perfect example of scapegoat: blaming someone else for your mistake
i took zero risk because you said the keys were perfect, they are not perfect, you made profits from shit keys
you should pay back every single person you sold keys to because you sold them in bad faith
if you had said, buy at your own discretion, keys can go bad at any time because my supplier has a copy of them
it would be a different story. Instead you GUARANTEED the keys are perfect and legit, you told me that you get them from a chinese supplier that works with blizzard
that was a lie (its in the email thread)
i am not calling you names, i am not going to do personal attacks
you are responsible and you will have to reprimand your scams
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| #23 Posted: 03 Jan 2014 06:25 pm Post subject: |
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At this point, this has become a thread for the battlefield. move or close this flame war
K0m should be held responsible.
Warrior hasn't had any problems with any other keys, k0m is known scum.
Honestly tho, warrior, just ignore his ass! you need not worry.
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please post where i have flamed him
i did not buy keys from "kom" i bought them from warrior, thus the accusation is against warrior
if warrior wants, he can make a scammer accusation against "kom"
warrior has had problems with other keys, he clearly said the keys he sold are being resold -- this is a problem |
it's just become an argument that belongs in the BF.
by other keys, i meant the other keys for the several other games he is supplying.
you kinda just pointed that out -ONLY the keys from k0m have a problem- it's not like warrior is scamming people. Therefore he will not get tagged. Whether or not he wants to reimburse people for the keys... that's his call. You both assumed this risk when dealing with these items. You seem to forget the he got screwed as well.
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| #24 Posted: 03 Jan 2014 06:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Dnote wrote: | At this point, this has become a thread for the battlefield. move or close this flame war
K0m should be held responsible.
Warrior hasn't had any problems with any other keys, k0m is known scum.
Honestly tho, warrior, just ignore his ass! you need not worry. |
please post where i have flamed him
i did not buy keys from "kom" i bought them from warrior, thus the accusation is against warrior
if warrior wants, he can make a scammer accusation against "kom"
warrior has had problems with other keys, he clearly said the keys he sold are being resold -- this is a problem
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| #25 Posted: 03 Jan 2014 06:31 pm Post subject: |
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well TiP is quite right ,
you buy fg from someone called A
you ressel and make profit from B
fgs reversal (scammed fgs whatever) , you have to repay B and A have to repay you
this is , imho , why I'm agaisnt account/cd key trade , you do not know the first owner , who can take it back
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| #26 Posted: 03 Jan 2014 06:55 pm Post subject: |
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| walou wrote: | well TiP is quite right ,
you buy fg from someone called A
you ressel and make profit from B
fgs reversal (scammed fgs whatever) , you have to repay B and A have to repay you
this is , imho , why I'm agaisnt account/cd key trade , you do not know the first owner , who can take it back |
no tip is out of his mind, and im out of my mind for not following what dnote is saying and simply just ignoring tip.
i never told tip that the keys were guaranteed perfect for life. at the time i said they were garunteed perfect and not to be in use. that faggot got to use the keys for almost a full year, and still doesn't see what im trying to say. when i sold for k0m everyone loved him, or so i thought. he was supposedly the "white knight" for diablo botting, because he offered legit keys to the public. I honestly thought that our business would continue for a long time, but i guess eventually greed sets in and some ppl become suseptible to that..
anyways, im getting a headache continuing this pointless debate. At first tip wanted reimbursment for the keys a month ago, then he dissapeared up until a few days ago. Now he is on a witch hunt and is saying i need to REIMBURSE ALL THE KEYS i have sold to ALL my past clients, even tho, and im not even fking joking when i say this (THE ONLY PERSON GIVING ME A RATION OF SHIT ABOUT KEYS IS TIP).
the dude
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so pls, can this topic and the one tip made against me be moved to the battlefield? tip needs to grow up and embrace REALITY! reality is something based in FACTS, and the facts are 1. tip is a moron, 2. k0m is the one who scammed and therefore should be the one ppl go after and 3. THERE WILL BE NO FUKING REIMBURSEMENT OF YOUR GOD DAMN KEYS. twas a great little fight we had, and dispute how much of a little shit you have been, i still sympathize with your situation, but ur still not getting reimbursed. |
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Well, actually Warrior has sold me CD Keys aswell, and have nothing to complain with.
But, problem of CD Keys are the next: What if I give the CD Keys Warrior gave me to a close friend, and tell him to use them, and just report Warrior because it's in use? --- would you really make Warrior payback me?
Once a CD Key is sold, the risk is done. The seller can't be asked for a repayment because the buyer can cheat easily. There is no way to prove if the CD Key was "bad" or "good-but-cheated"
I don't know how would you deal into this. And of course, I am not saying nothing against TiP, I'm just pointing out my thoughts.
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If the keys are being used, you are responsible for the refunds, Theres risks in businesses, you cant just freeroll for profit, if something goes wrong, you're responsible. If pokerstars puts up a 1m guarantee and it only gets 800k in payments, they cant just cancel it, they need to put up the other 200k, they cant put up these guarantees and then retract. If im reselling fg for someone for profit and i get locked holding their fg? im on the hook for that fg.
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| #29 Posted: 04 Jan 2014 06:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Paul wrote: | Well, actually Warrior has sold me CD Keys aswell, and have nothing to complain with.
But, problem of CD Keys are the next: What if I give the CD Keys Warrior gave me to a close friend, and tell him to use them, and just report Warrior because it's in use? --- would you really make Warrior payback me?
Once a CD Key is sold, the risk is done. The seller can't be asked for a repayment because the buyer can cheat easily. There is no way to prove if the CD Key was "bad" or "good-but-cheated"
I don't know how would you deal into this. And of course, I am not saying nothing against TiP, I'm just pointing out my thoughts. |
Exactly right. But there are many other factors involved:
1. There is no way for Tip to truley prove that the keys are legit as you say
2. Never did I once say that the keys would be good for life, until the end of time blah blah. in fact, never have i once heard of a cd key lasting forever. All sorts of things are bound to happen, key disabling, in use, muting of key ect. I simply told him at the time they would be garunteed perfect. I never said that "In the event that my cd key supplier decides to fuk you over, i will be reimbursing you".
3. As I have said a thousand times, i was a middle man. nothing more. When a company boss commits an act that results in all sorts of negative damage, HE is responsible for those actions. His employees are not to blame, unless of course they were his accomplices. I however never knew of k0ms actions before it was too late, and when i could proove what he was doing, i immediately took action by going after him. In the boss/worker scenario, the workers are undoubtedly let go from their jobs as a result of whatever the boss did to ruin the company, however they don't have to pay for the bosses mistakes. This scenario is viable, because i have already stopped selling k0ms keys. Nothing more should be expected from me or k0ms key resellers. We are not secretly working with that fag, nor did we ever know what he intended to do, therefore what the fuk are we responsible for?
4. This is my favorite one: Revenues/ warranties/ and key clients. This topic covers several things. First of all, i sold k0ms keys for almost a full year. And again, i never told anyone that their keys would be viable for life, and how could i? how can anyone garuntee saftey against unforseen circumstances. Its like a real estate agent in florida GUARANTEEING a person they will never encounter a hurricane that will damage their home. So with that in mind, i can make a claim, that not only did my clients buy keys knowing this (a factor more of common sense) but all of them have already gotten to use their keys and be happy with them. It is the main reason the only person giving me this crap is Tip. Everyone bought keys so they could bot, enjoyed their keys, and now k0m has destroyed the market. Luckily only a small number of ppl have reported their keys in use, and none of them (other than tip) have given me crap about it. thats because they understand the general fuking situation. Another great analogy is if you buy a computer from a store, use it for a year, and then one day your friend comes over and smashes it to peices. The store AINT GONNA REIMBURSE YOU FOR YOUR FRIENDS MISTAKE! but here is the catch in this part, and its called INSURANCE! ppl buy insurance to PREPARE for these potential UNFORESEEN problems. Now if i had offered some kind of insurance plan on the keys, saying, in the event of an alien invasion in which they steal your cd keys in order to take over all sentient life, then u will be covered. However, i did not do that. Everyone keeps saying "there is risk involved in being a businessman blah blah, well then i say back "there is fking risk invovled for the buyer as well when you buy any commodity".
Bottom line: it was a great run selling keys, and it could have lasted for much longer had k0m not made the decision to become greedy. Im the worker who has been let go from the job, but ill be damned if i have to now pay for the mistakes of my former boss. That shit just doesn't fly. Ill continue to come in here and entertain the almighty "butthurt" tip, but this is now a battlefield topic. I don't want to hear anymore scammer accusation crap of where i need to reimburse ur damn keys. If this hurts my reputation with any further trades, then so be it. Im well known among the community, and i am not a scammer. not by a longshot.
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| Cory wrote: | We know the K0m issue.
However, if K0m sold you CD keys and you resold them to this user, you owe him new keys if they don't work. Then, K0m would owe you the same. However, I highly doubt K0m will surface again after the shitstorm he caused.
Like I said in Tip's thread, let Mewtwo Teamview him using the keys and show they don't work. If they don't, you'll owe him new ones. If they do, then he's falsifying a complaint and be locked.
Now, I'll need to see all Pm's from Tip to you. I'll also need you to stop selling CD Keys during this ongoing ordeal.
From Tip, I'll need to see his Pm's and proof of purchase.
This could be a lengthy scenario, so let it run until all is filed. Once that occurs, I'll speak to Mewtwo and Cinemax about what actions should be taken.
Just relax for now. I know this sucks but when an accusation occurs, both parties get fair treatment whether the victim is a douche or not. |
well he asked me on skype (jan 1st) to buy cd-key from him lol
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| Jo wrote: | | Cory wrote: | We know the K0m issue.
However, if K0m sold you CD keys and you resold them to this user, you owe him new keys if they don't work. Then, K0m would owe you the same. However, I highly doubt K0m will surface again after the shitstorm he caused.
Like I said in Tip's thread, let Mewtwo Teamview him using the keys and show they don't work. If they don't, you'll owe him new ones. If they do, then he's falsifying a complaint and be locked.
Now, I'll need to see all Pm's from Tip to you. I'll also need you to stop selling CD Keys during this ongoing ordeal.
From Tip, I'll need to see his Pm's and proof of purchase.
This could be a lengthy scenario, so let it run until all is filed. Once that occurs, I'll speak to Mewtwo and Cinemax about what actions should be taken.
Just relax for now. I know this sucks but when an accusation occurs, both parties get fair treatment whether the victim is a douche or not. |
well he asked me on skype (jan 1st) to buy cd-key from him lol |
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| #33 Posted: 05 Jan 2014 01:38 am Post subject: |
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| Jo wrote: | | Cory wrote: | We know the K0m issue.
However, if K0m sold you CD keys and you resold them to this user, you owe him new keys if they don't work. Then, K0m would owe you the same. However, I highly doubt K0m will surface again after the shitstorm he caused.
Like I said in Tip's thread, let Mewtwo Teamview him using the keys and show they don't work. If they don't, you'll owe him new ones. If they do, then he's falsifying a complaint and be locked.
Now, I'll need to see all Pm's from Tip to you. I'll also need you to stop selling CD Keys during this ongoing ordeal.
From Tip, I'll need to see his Pm's and proof of purchase.
This could be a lengthy scenario, so let it run until all is filed. Once that occurs, I'll speak to Mewtwo and Cinemax about what actions should be taken.
Just relax for now. I know this sucks but when an accusation occurs, both parties get fair treatment whether the victim is a douche or not. |
well he asked me on skype (jan 1st) to buy cd-key from him lol |
did he offer to fondle yours balls too? i heard he was gay. like literally, homosexual. a while back i reffered a friend of mine to him to buy keys, and k0m started trying to flirt with him, cuz he has a skype profile pic with his shirt off LMFAO. plus k0ms facebook had tons of pics on it, all of other guys. then i saw a few of his aim logs or whatever it was, transalted it and found a message in it where he asked some guy to see his penis.
lol i remember when i asked k0m about it one day, out of curiosity. i was expecting him to say something like "idk what ur talking about", but instead he got super mad, started yelling at me then proceeded to go offline. The next day he apparently, and rather conveniently, said he had a girlfriend who was preggers. i asked to see a pic of his lovely gf and he said see "didn't like to have pictures taken of her". im like, what girl don't like to take pictures of themselves O_O.
and ya, after i found out he was mass scamming keys, a few other ppl who knew him well said he was gay. also said one of the greatest causes for his "sudden" greed, was that he was a struggling crack addict who was starting to relapse. i tried feeling sorry for the prick at the time, but imo he is now beyond forgiveness |
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| #34 Posted: 05 Jan 2014 03:55 am Post subject: |
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| Paul wrote: | Well, actually Warrior has sold me CD Keys aswell, and have nothing to complain with.
But, problem of CD Keys are the next: What if I give the CD Keys Warrior gave me to a close friend, and tell him to use them, and just report Warrior because it's in use? --- would you really make Warrior payback me?
Once a CD Key is sold, the risk is done. The seller can't be asked for a repayment because the buyer can cheat easily. There is no way to prove if the CD Key was "bad" or "good-but-cheated"
I don't know how would you deal into this. And of course, I am not saying nothing against TiP, I'm just pointing out my thoughts. |
if thats the case why did this guy get locked: http://www.d3jsp.org/viewtopic.php?t=117234
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i know i have not sold the keys to anyone, and warrior already admitted that kom is reselling keys that he sold -- he told me his supplier was a chinese guy that got keys from blizzard -- this was a lie thus he either repays me or gets locked
simple as that
also still waiting to find out how much profit warrior made
he profitted off of shitty keys now hes a greedy faggit who wont repay
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| the mods have already said the case is closed. you furthermore, just spammed my topics, and refuse to let the issue go. if anything, action will be taken against your account |
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did you or did you not sell keys that are now being resold?
simple yes or no question
stop blaming others, refund all the people you scammed
also you can bet that every person that posts in any of your threads will get pmed about how you scam cdkeys
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| #37 Posted: 05 Jan 2014 04:18 am Post subject: |
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| TiP wrote: | did you or did you not sell keys that are now being resold?
simple yes or no question
stop blaming others, refund all the people you scammed
also you can bet that every person that posts in any of your threads will get pmed about how you scam cdkeys |
do you not realize, not only has this petty case been closed, but you will now be receiving reprimand to your account? here's why, i will enlighten you
you just spammed my key topic, which is against the rules btw. so strike 1 right there
case has been closed, yet your butthurtness will not allow things to end. strike 2
YOU JUST THREATENED TO MESSAGE ANYONE WHO POSTS IN MY THREADS ABOUT ME BEING A SCAMMER! You can bet your ass thats against the rules as well. i dont even need to argue any more points with you at this point. you will be your own undoing my friend |
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you sold keys, made profit
now keys are in use
is English hard for you to understand?
pay back or get locked
its your choice
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| #39 Posted: 05 Jan 2014 04:42 am Post subject: |
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| TiP wrote: | you sold keys, made profit
now keys are in use
is English hard for you to understand?
pay back or get locked
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1. you spammed my thread, which is against site rules
2. you threatened me and future customers who come to me for assistance/comodities, which is against the rules
3. the case is infact closed. did u not notice the new sticky made in selling and trading forums? the fact that mewtwo moved the topic to battlefield? he didnt create a new one in there for spam purposes, he closed BOTH YOURS AND MINE, as in THIS WHOLE CASE IS CLOSED!!!
your like the kid on the playground who keeps trying to bully the big guy, and eventually you get knocked out. Ive been as patient as i can with you in the beginning, but now your on a course to your own destruction.
anyways im still waiting for a mod to get online to issue u warns for the threats/spam u made, and the fact that u wont let this case end |
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already one keyseller got locked
your next
also im reporting you to tramway for posting 2 false scammer accusations against me
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