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| Myoga- wrote: | | Law wrote: | | [x] no as it violates your freedom of speech and expression. Just report spam topics and move on, moderators will deal with it when they have time. |
I don't care, and rofl how does it violate your freedom of speech? The forum owner gets to set his own "rules and regulations" that users need to abide by or they get the boot / warned etc. The internet != USA. |
I don't quite understand what you don't care about, care to explain. And it does violate you freedom of speech since the words will be filtered therefore you cannot use your fundamental freedom to express yourself in a way you want. Just because there is no real regulations or enforcement from USA or any other country on internet, doesn't mean that users on the board are not protected from being exploited.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights
It's moderator's responsibility to ensure that the warns are handed out, and people who break the rules are punished, thus why moderators exist. Creating a system that many others forums have, will not solve anything, but make users use abbreviations and symbols to trespass it.
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| Law wrote: | | Myoga- wrote: | | Law wrote: | | [x] no as it violates your freedom of speech and expression. Just report spam topics and move on, moderators will deal with it when they have time. |
I don't care, and rofl how does it violate your freedom of speech? The forum owner gets to set his own "rules and regulations" that users need to abide by or they get the boot / warned etc. The internet != USA. |
I don't quite understand what you don't care about, care to explain. And it does violate you freedom of speech since the words will be filtered therefore you cannot use your fundamental freedom to express yourself in a way you want. Just because there is no real regulations or enforcement from USA or any other country on internet, doesn't mean that users on the board are not protected from being exploited.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights
It's moderator's responsibility to ensure that the warns are handed out, and people who break the rules are punished, thus why moderators exist. Creating a system that many others forums have, will not solve anything, but make users use abbreviations and symbols to trespass it. |
The I don't care was towards whether or not they put in the word filter, not directed towards you.
Also, how is banning a few words exploiting its users? Also you can express yourself in any way you want, you'd just have to use different words, you can still get the same point across without using some of the words I presume would be banned.
And ofc users will use abbreviations and symbols to trespass it, but then people will just report the post and they'll get a warn, simple as that. For example, go to d2jsp.org and make a post and try to type d3jsp.org, what happens? It gets turned into d2jsp.org, why does it do that? Because the administrator doesn't want people posting links to another rival site. What happens when you post the whole JED project thing? Oh right, you get insta-suspended, can you do anything about it? Nope, because the admin will just laugh at you and ban you, and what can you do about it? Nothing because it's the admins final decision on what happens. The administrator governs what happens on the forums and if he doesn't like something, he'll change it, and if users don't abide, they get the boot, simple as that, nothing we can do about it.
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| #23 Posted: 02 Dec 2010 12:42 am Post subject: |
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I'd vote for no.
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| #24 Posted: 02 Dec 2010 01:35 am Post subject: |
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| Myoga- wrote: | | Law wrote: | | Myoga- wrote: | | Law wrote: | | [x] no as it violates your freedom of speech and expression. Just report spam topics and move on, moderators will deal with it when they have time. |
I don't care, and rofl how does it violate your freedom of speech? The forum owner gets to set his own "rules and regulations" that users need to abide by or they get the boot / warned etc. The internet != USA. |
I don't quite understand what you don't care about, care to explain. And it does violate you freedom of speech since the words will be filtered therefore you cannot use your fundamental freedom to express yourself in a way you want. Just because there is no real regulations or enforcement from USA or any other country on internet, doesn't mean that users on the board are not protected from being exploited.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights
It's moderator's responsibility to ensure that the warns are handed out, and people who break the rules are punished, thus why moderators exist. Creating a system that many others forums have, will not solve anything, but make users use abbreviations and symbols to trespass it. |
The I don't care was towards whether or not they put in the word filter, not directed towards you.
Also, how is banning a few words exploiting its users? Also you can express yourself in any way you want, you'd just have to use different words, you can still get the same point across without using some of the words I presume would be banned.
And ofc users will use abbreviations and symbols to trespass it, but then people will just report the post and they'll get a warn, simple as that. For example, go to d2jsp,org and make a post and try to type d3jsp.org, what happens? It gets turned into d2jsp,org, why does it do that? Because the administrator doesn't want people posting links to another rival site. What happens when you post the whole JED project thing? Oh right, you get insta-suspended, can you do anything about it? Nope, because the admin will just laugh at you and ban you, and what can you do about it? Nothing because it's the admins final decision on what happens. The administrator governs what happens on the forums and if he doesn't like something, he'll change it, and if users don't abide, they get the boot, simple as that, nothing we can do about it. |
That's why moderators exist to "fix" such a tiny violations, The first admin of that forum
rarely even deals with banning anymore. If you read the link i posted you would surely get answers to violation of expression question  .
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| #25 Posted: 02 Dec 2010 02:29 am Post subject: |
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| Law wrote: | | Myoga- wrote: | | Law wrote: | | Myoga- wrote: | | Law wrote: | | [x] no as it violates your freedom of speech and expression. Just report spam topics and move on, moderators will deal with it when they have time. |
I don't care, and rofl how does it violate your freedom of speech? The forum owner gets to set his own "rules and regulations" that users need to abide by or they get the boot / warned etc. The internet != USA. |
I don't quite understand what you don't care about, care to explain. And it does violate you freedom of speech since the words will be filtered therefore you cannot use your fundamental freedom to express yourself in a way you want. Just because there is no real regulations or enforcement from USA or any other country on internet, doesn't mean that users on the board are not protected from being exploited.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights
It's moderator's responsibility to ensure that the warns are handed out, and people who break the rules are punished, thus why moderators exist. Creating a system that many others forums have, will not solve anything, but make users use abbreviations and symbols to trespass it. |
The I don't care was towards whether or not they put in the word filter, not directed towards you.
Also, how is banning a few words exploiting its users? Also you can express yourself in any way you want, you'd just have to use different words, you can still get the same point across without using some of the words I presume would be banned.
And ofc users will use abbreviations and symbols to trespass it, but then people will just report the post and they'll get a warn, simple as that. For example, go to d2jsp,org and make a post and try to type d3jsp.org, what happens? It gets turned into d2jsp,org, why does it do that? Because the administrator doesn't want people posting links to another rival site. What happens when you post the whole JED project thing? Oh right, you get insta-suspended, can you do anything about it? Nope, because the admin will just laugh at you and ban you, and what can you do about it? Nothing because it's the admins final decision on what happens. The administrator governs what happens on the forums and if he doesn't like something, he'll change it, and if users don't abide, they get the boot, simple as that, nothing we can do about it. |
That's why moderators exist to "fix" such a tiny violations, The first admin of that forum
rarely even deals with banning anymore. If you read the link i posted you would surely get answers to violation of expression question . |
You can still express yourself, you'll just have to use different words xD
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| #26 Posted: 02 Dec 2010 03:28 am Post subject: |
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| Myoga- wrote: | | Law wrote: | | Myoga- wrote: | | Law wrote: | | Myoga- wrote: | | Law wrote: | | [x] no as it violates your freedom of speech and expression. Just report spam topics and move on, moderators will deal with it when they have time. |
I don't care, and rofl how does it violate your freedom of speech? The forum owner gets to set his own "rules and regulations" that users need to abide by or they get the boot / warned etc. The internet != USA. |
I don't quite understand what you don't care about, care to explain. And it does violate you freedom of speech since the words will be filtered therefore you cannot use your fundamental freedom to express yourself in a way you want. Just because there is no real regulations or enforcement from USA or any other country on internet, doesn't mean that users on the board are not protected from being exploited.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights
It's moderator's responsibility to ensure that the warns are handed out, and people who break the rules are punished, thus why moderators exist. Creating a system that many others forums have, will not solve anything, but make users use abbreviations and symbols to trespass it. |
The I don't care was towards whether or not they put in the word filter, not directed towards you.
Also, how is banning a few words exploiting its users? Also you can express yourself in any way you want, you'd just have to use different words, you can still get the same point across without using some of the words I presume would be banned.
And ofc users will use abbreviations and symbols to trespass it, but then people will just report the post and they'll get a warn, simple as that. For example, go to d2jsp,org and make a post and try to type d3jsp.org, what happens? It gets turned into d2jsp,org, why does it do that? Because the administrator doesn't want people posting links to another rival site. What happens when you post the whole JED project thing? Oh right, you get insta-suspended, can you do anything about it? Nope, because the admin will just laugh at you and ban you, and what can you do about it? Nothing because it's the admins final decision on what happens. The administrator governs what happens on the forums and if he doesn't like something, he'll change it, and if users don't abide, they get the boot, simple as that, nothing we can do about it. |
That's why moderators exist to "fix" such a tiny violations, The first admin of that forum
rarely even deals with banning anymore. If you read the link i posted you would surely get answers to violation of expression question . |
You can still express yourself, you'll just have to use different words xD |
Indeed, there's no point in word filters.
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you guys are actually talking about d3jsp as if it was real life? freedom of speech and so on. let me tell you one thing
if god,( if there is one ) could invent a word filter, wouldnt he do it to make us stop cursing? this is the internets, and a word filter has absolutly nothing to do with your freedom of speech, its more like a rule.
the thing is, i got this idea from the xxxxx posts from moderators and other users pleading other users to stop spamming the trading&selling forum with 'oh i got scammed by blabla'' topics. i think things has gone out of hand, and what is better then stopping this ... violation, with a word filter?
the filter would contain words like
scammer(in a topic title outside BF / s/a)
any curse words (outside BF)
any excressive flames, as in numerous of words in a sentence to flame others (outside bf or even in bf? ^^)
+ more, i cant think of anything right now
anyways, stop answering Yes or No, please post WHY and post WHY you think what you do.
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| n00b^ wrote: | you guys are actually talking about d3jsp as if it was real life? freedom of speech and so on. let me tell you one thing
if god,( if there is one ) could invent a word filter, wouldnt he do it to make us stop cursing? this is the internets, and a word filter has absolutly nothing to do with your freedom of speech, its more like a rule.
the thing is, i got this idea from the xxxxx posts from moderators and other users pleading other users to stop spamming the trading&selling forum with 'oh i got scammed by blabla'' topics. i think things has gone out of hand, and what is better then stopping this ... violation, with a word filter?
the filter would contain words like
scammer(in a topic title outside BF / s/a)
any curse words (outside BF)
any excressive flames, as in numerous of words in a sentence to flame others (outside bf or even in bf? ^^)
+ more, i cant think of anything right now
anyways, stop answering Yes or No, please post WHY and post WHY you think what you do.
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I don't think you fully comprehend the meaning of the debate between me and Myoga (even though it wasn't much debate as we basically stated the same thing from different perspectives)
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Youre the one not understanding the meaning of this at all. Youre talking about it as if it would jump up in your face eating it away if you said a word that the word filter would not allow.
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why would you want to have the word 'scammer' in a topic title in the trading & selling forums?
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why would you want numerous of curse words in a sentence posted if it was outside, or even inside the battle floor? excressive flaming is against the rules, if I recall.
This is just to simplify the moderators work, and it will reduce the spam good. Dont drag in the Freedom of Speech into this, as it has nothing to do with it, its just a word filter to filter away the spam.
Trying to get around these words will possibly result in a warn or a short suspension.
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It would just make things annoying when posting topics, having to rewrite words and what not.
Therefore I say no.
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| Bic wrote: | It would just make things annoying when posting topics, having to rewrite words and what not.
Therefore I say no. |
~10 words would be word-filtered out of all the existing words in the world 
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| n00b^ wrote: | Youre the one not understanding the meaning of this at all. Youre talking about it as if it would jump up in your face eating it away if you said a word that the word filter would not allow.
i.e
why would you want to have the word 'scammer' in a topic title in the trading & selling forums?
i.e
why would you want numerous of curse words in a sentence posted if it was outside, or even inside the battle floor? excressive flaming is against the rules, if I recall.
This is just to simplify the moderators work, and it will reduce the spam good. Dont drag in the Freedom of Speech into this, as it has nothing to do with it, its just a word filter to filter away the spam.
Trying to get around these words will possibly result in a warn or a short suspension. |
maybe because I can spell scammer 20 different ways using symbols and international language keys?
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| #33 Posted: 04 Dec 2010 08:51 am Post subject: |
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| Law wrote: | | n00b^ wrote: | Youre the one not understanding the meaning of this at all. Youre talking about it as if it would jump up in your face eating it away if you said a word that the word filter would not allow.
i.e
why would you want to have the word 'scammer' in a topic title in the trading & selling forums?
i.e
why would you want numerous of curse words in a sentence posted if it was outside, or even inside the battle floor? excressive flaming is against the rules, if I recall.
This is just to simplify the moderators work, and it will reduce the spam good. Dont drag in the Freedom of Speech into this, as it has nothing to do with it, its just a word filter to filter away the spam.
Trying to get around these words will possibly result in a warn or a short suspension. |
maybe because I can spell scammer 20 different ways using symbols and international language keys? |
I refer to my question again, WHY would you want to make a topic using the word 'scammer' or anything like that in the tradin&selling forum if it would NOT contain information about a user getting scammed by another user WHICH is a violation against the rules??? |
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I can't say anything except that I agree as long as you don't add too much to it
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| niceone wrote: | | I can't say anything except that I agree as long as you don't add too much to it |
Yeah, that's what Ive been saying  people's like OMG MY INTERNET RIGHTS OF SPEECH + bullshit
its just a few words, max 5-10 |
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| JAG ÄR COOL wrote: | | niceone wrote: | | I can't say anything except that I agree as long as you don't add too much to it |
Yeah, that's what Ive been saying people's like OMG MY INTERNET RIGHTS OF SPEECH + bullshit
its just a few words, max 5-10 |
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty
to purchase a little Temporary Safety,
deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
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I am saying that in order to have a free world everything must be free. I have the rights to say anything i want, i also have the moral and social conscience to censor myself. But to remove my right to say certain words is ludacris. If you do not believe in the same approach, cool, but as i respect your right to your opinion, you should respect mine.
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i wrote a note to myoga too but i lost it when copy and pasting so i will edit it in
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| Myoga- wrote: | | Law wrote: | | [x] no as it violates your freedom of speech and expression. Just report spam topics and move on, moderators will deal with it when they have time. |
I don't care, and rofl how does it violate your freedom of speech? The forum owner gets to set his own "rules and regulations" that users need to abide by or they get the boot / warned etc. The internet != USA. |
limiting what i can and cannot say through rules instead of social or moral standards is violating my freedom of speech. A right given under many governments today. including canda, as noted in the canadian bill of rights, section one, article one. As well as the United States Bill of rights, section one article one.
And, im pretty sure the server for this website is either in canada or the united states. and considering the administrator/creator is a canadian citizen.... goes to say that your statement that internet = usa is true, but natural born rights = world
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