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| Jessmop wrote: | The Members ++ is one of the biggest fails this site has ever had.
Yes you can lock your own topics...YAY. Thats a Staff job anyway, all anyone needs to do is request that a topic be locked and it will.
Members ++ is a unique way for scammers to LOOK important and a way for idiots to pay 2500 fg for something that can be done free of charge. |
I am sorry to say this. But D3JSP != D2JSP. Just because THEIR M++ tag means the user is trusted doesn't mean EVERY other site on the internet needs to do the same.
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| #22 Posted: 13 Jan 2011 10:09 am Post subject: |
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| Myoga- wrote: | | Jessmop wrote: | The Members ++ is one of the biggest fails this site has ever had.
Yes you can lock your own topics...YAY. Thats a Staff job anyway, all anyone needs to do is request that a topic be locked and it will.
Members ++ is a unique way for scammers to LOOK important and a way for idiots to pay 2500 fg for something that can be done free of charge. |
I am sorry to say this. But D3JSP != D2JSP. Just because THEIR M++ tag means the user is trusted doesn't mean EVERY other site on the internet needs to do the same. |
Damn right this isnt d2jsp ! We have a 3 in our name ! We also have a Members ++ just like them but ours means something completely different...
Seriously just change the fucking name already if this site wants to be so "different"
People will continue to think it means trusted. Sure we can tell them to read the rules and all that bullshit but wouldn't it be in everyones best interest to call it something different? Not everyone will or want to read rules on ANY site and not many do..
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I say rename it "2500 fg Blue oval"
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| enigma. wrote: | | Nablyudalovka wrote: | | ShUgaSHaNe wrote: | | u buy it in the shop for 2500 fg |
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| members ++ was a horrible idea, just away for tram to make some extra money imo |
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| #26 Posted: 13 Jan 2011 11:42 am Post subject: |
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| Jessmop wrote: | | Myoga- wrote: | | Jessmop wrote: | The Members ++ is one of the biggest fails this site has ever had.
Yes you can lock your own topics...YAY. Thats a Staff job anyway, all anyone needs to do is request that a topic be locked and it will.
Members ++ is a unique way for scammers to LOOK important and a way for idiots to pay 2500 fg for something that can be done free of charge. |
I am sorry to say this. But D3JSP != D2JSP. Just because THEIR M++ tag means the user is trusted doesn't mean EVERY other site on the internet needs to do the same. |
Damn right this isnt d2jsp ! We have a 3 in our name ! We also have a Members ++ just like them but ours means something completely different...
Seriously just change the fucking name already if this site wants to be so "different"
People will continue to think it means trusted. Sure we can tell them to read the rules and all that bullshit but wouldn't it be in everyones best interest to call it something different? Not everyone will or want to read rules on ANY site and not many do.. |
Then is it not the fault of the user then? If they don't want to take an extra 5 minutes out of their oh so precious life to actually inquire about the legitimacy of the tags used around here then the blame should not be put onto the people that manage this website, but actually placed upon themselves.
Very first topic in the sticky list located in the S&T sub-forum: http://www.d3jsp.org/viewtopic.php?t=55194
CTRL+F Members++
I don't understand why there is always so much controversy regarding the tag, and if someone truly wants to become part of a website, and know what everything means and how everything works, shouldn't it be in their best interest to at least read a little bit into the forum?
Manuals and guides are there for a reason, if you don't read them, something bad is usually bound to happen (ex. building a computer by yourself for the first time).
| Basi wrote: | | members ++ was a horrible idea, just away for tram to make some extra money imo |
As compared to what? Buying FG from him? Is it not the same as buying FG from njaguar and using said FG on a rainbow orb?
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| Myoga- wrote: | | Jessmop wrote: | | Myoga- wrote: | | Jessmop wrote: | The Members ++ is one of the biggest fails this site has ever had.
Yes you can lock your own topics...YAY. Thats a Staff job anyway, all anyone needs to do is request that a topic be locked and it will.
Members ++ is a unique way for scammers to LOOK important and a way for idiots to pay 2500 fg for something that can be done free of charge. |
I am sorry to say this. But D3JSP != D2JSP. Just because THEIR M++ tag means the user is trusted doesn't mean EVERY other site on the internet needs to do the same. |
Damn right this isnt d2jsp ! We have a 3 in our name ! We also have a Members ++ just like them but ours means something completely different...
Seriously just change the fucking name already if this site wants to be so "different"
People will continue to think it means trusted. Sure we can tell them to read the rules and all that bullshit but wouldn't it be in everyones best interest to call it something different? Not everyone will or want to read rules on ANY site and not many do.. |
Then is it not the fault of the user then? If they don't want to take an extra 5 minutes out of their oh so precious life to actually inquire about the legitimacy of the tags used around here then the blame should not be put onto the people that manage this website, but actually placed upon themselves.
Very first topic in the sticky list located in the S&T sub-forum: http://www.d3jsp.org/viewtopic.php?t=55194
CTRL+F Members++
I don't understand why there is always so much controversy regarding the tag, and if someone truly wants to become part of a website, and know what everything means and how everything works, shouldn't it be in their best interest to at least read a little bit into the forum?
Manuals and guides are there for a reason, if you don't read them, something bad is usually bound to happen (ex. building a computer by yourself for the first time).
| Basi wrote: | | members ++ was a horrible idea, just away for tram to make some extra money imo |
As compared to what? Buying FG from him? Is it not the same as buying FG from njaguar and using said FG on a rainbow orb? |
The average user will never do research on a tag unless they plan on getting one themselves. Its a bad idea and those who dont admit it are fucktards. Its POORLY named and misleading and the fact that they can be purchased opposed to earned is insulting. If anyone of you had any backbone you wouldnt be afraid to voice opinions against what is wrong with the site instead of going along with whatever this months SR MODS/MODS and ADMINS have to say. The whole concept of members ++ is lame.
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| #28 Posted: 13 Jan 2011 02:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Jessmop wrote: | | Myoga- wrote: | | Jessmop wrote: | | Myoga- wrote: | | Jessmop wrote: | The Members ++ is one of the biggest fails this site has ever had.
Yes you can lock your own topics...YAY. Thats a Staff job anyway, all anyone needs to do is request that a topic be locked and it will.
Members ++ is a unique way for scammers to LOOK important and a way for idiots to pay 2500 fg for something that can be done free of charge. |
I am sorry to say this. But D3JSP != D2JSP. Just because THEIR M++ tag means the user is trusted doesn't mean EVERY other site on the internet needs to do the same. |
Damn right this isnt d2jsp ! We have a 3 in our name ! We also have a Members ++ just like them but ours means something completely different...
Seriously just change the fucking name already if this site wants to be so "different"
People will continue to think it means trusted. Sure we can tell them to read the rules and all that bullshit but wouldn't it be in everyones best interest to call it something different? Not everyone will or want to read rules on ANY site and not many do.. |
Then is it not the fault of the user then? If they don't want to take an extra 5 minutes out of their oh so precious life to actually inquire about the legitimacy of the tags used around here then the blame should not be put onto the people that manage this website, but actually placed upon themselves.
Very first topic in the sticky list located in the S&T sub-forum: http://www.d3jsp.org/viewtopic.php?t=55194
CTRL+F Members++
I don't understand why there is always so much controversy regarding the tag, and if someone truly wants to become part of a website, and know what everything means and how everything works, shouldn't it be in their best interest to at least read a little bit into the forum?
Manuals and guides are there for a reason, if you don't read them, something bad is usually bound to happen (ex. building a computer by yourself for the first time).
| Basi wrote: | | members ++ was a horrible idea, just away for tram to make some extra money imo |
As compared to what? Buying FG from him? Is it not the same as buying FG from njaguar and using said FG on a rainbow orb? |
The average user will never do research on a tag unless they plan on getting one themselves. Its a bad idea and those who dont admit it are fucktards. Its POORLY named and misleading and the fact that they can be purchased opposed to earned is insulting. If anyone of you had any backbone you wouldnt be afraid to voice opinions against what is wrong with the site instead of going along with whatever this months SR MODS/MODS and ADMINS have to say. The whole concept of members ++ is lame. |
I agree with the members++ and it should be changed but also people should get to know a site before they trade on it.
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| Jessmop wrote: | | Myoga- wrote: | | Jessmop wrote: | | Myoga- wrote: | | Jessmop wrote: | The Members ++ is one of the biggest fails this site has ever had.
Yes you can lock your own topics...YAY. Thats a Staff job anyway, all anyone needs to do is request that a topic be locked and it will.
Members ++ is a unique way for scammers to LOOK important and a way for idiots to pay 2500 fg for something that can be done free of charge. |
I am sorry to say this. But D3JSP != D2JSP. Just because THEIR M++ tag means the user is trusted doesn't mean EVERY other site on the internet needs to do the same. |
Damn right this isnt d2jsp ! We have a 3 in our name ! We also have a Members ++ just like them but ours means something completely different...
Seriously just change the fucking name already if this site wants to be so "different"
People will continue to think it means trusted. Sure we can tell them to read the rules and all that bullshit but wouldn't it be in everyones best interest to call it something different? Not everyone will or want to read rules on ANY site and not many do.. |
Then is it not the fault of the user then? If they don't want to take an extra 5 minutes out of their oh so precious life to actually inquire about the legitimacy of the tags used around here then the blame should not be put onto the people that manage this website, but actually placed upon themselves.
Very first topic in the sticky list located in the S&T sub-forum: http://www.d3jsp.org/viewtopic.php?t=55194
CTRL+F Members++
I don't understand why there is always so much controversy regarding the tag, and if someone truly wants to become part of a website, and know what everything means and how everything works, shouldn't it be in their best interest to at least read a little bit into the forum?
Manuals and guides are there for a reason, if you don't read them, something bad is usually bound to happen (ex. building a computer by yourself for the first time).
| Basi wrote: | | members ++ was a horrible idea, just away for tram to make some extra money imo |
As compared to what? Buying FG from him? Is it not the same as buying FG from njaguar and using said FG on a rainbow orb? |
The average user will never do research on a tag unless they plan on getting one themselves. Its a bad idea and those who dont admit it are fucktards. Its POORLY named and misleading and the fact that they can be purchased opposed to earned is insulting. If anyone of you had any backbone you wouldnt be afraid to voice opinions against what is wrong with the site instead of going along with whatever this months SR MODS/MODS and ADMINS have to say. The whole concept of members ++ is lame. |
Trust me, if I loved this site so much I wouldn't be gone for days at a time (admittedly I've been playing Assassin's Creed 2 and pushed d3jsp aside).
You know what I don't like?
- Slow responses from some mods / admin
- Some issues that have very reasonable arguments aren't even considered
- Site is NEVER updated
- Constant SQL problems (tables filling, causing site to become inaccessible)
- The way some of the S/A's were handled
etc etc, I really don't need to go on.
And yes, I agree with you, Members++ CAN be misleading IF you (or another member) base it on how the tag is used on other websites.
Another thing I should bring up that I have noticed on other forums. A lot of forum ranks were based on post count, and some were ridiculously high (5k+ on a forum with an average of 1k posts / day) and some of the titles could have been misleading IF it were a trade forum. Titles are titles, ranks are ranks, nothing and nobody is 100% trustworthy, even the highest ranked people with the top titles and ranks could be shady as fuck.
IMO, it doesn't matter what we change, we can change EVERY aspect about this forum and users will still find a way to get themselves scammed. Nothing we can do about it, as long as there is a trade section there will be issues.
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Its not the members++ that is the misleading part anyways its a combination that those people use. They buy the fg to get members ++ so they have stars color name all kinds of shit that would make you think that they would want to keep thier account. Anyone who doesnt put any effort into researching the person they are gonna trade with is gonna have bigger issues in life than getting scammed for fg so its better that they learn that here I guess.
- Ps myoga why dont you run the website and help them keep it updated ? or have more staff jobs open up for others who would help !
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| TheDrag wrote: | Its not the members++ that is the misleading part anyways its a combination that those people use. They buy the fg to get members ++ so they have stars color name all kinds of shit that would make you think that they would want to keep thier account. Anyone who doesnt put any effort into researching the person they are gonna trade with is gonna have bigger issues in life than getting scammed for fg so its better that they learn that here I guess.
- Ps myoga why dont you run the website and help them keep it updated ? or have more staff jobs open up for others who would help ! |
this there are plenty of people here including myself that if promoted would help in everyway possible to make this site grow
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| But seriously, if people started to FUCKING READ THE RULES, BEFORE they do real $$ trades, there wouldn't be such a problem with scammers. |
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| Happyguy44 wrote: | maybe we should rename it to
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No point, people will complain about that as well.
Also I don't do any of the backend work, that's strictly tramway (in case you're wondering Happyguy I'm talking about drastic site modifications and coding). Happyguy and I were working on a new LoGD server recently but it's kind of fallen short (this school semester is almost over! Woo!).
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| Myoga- wrote: | | Happyguy44 wrote: | maybe we should rename it to
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No point, people will complain about that as well.
Also I don't do any of the backend work, that's strictly tramway (in case you're wondering Happyguy I'm talking about drastic site modifications and coding). Happyguy and I were working on a new LoGD server recently but it's kind of fallen short (this school semester is almost over! Woo!). |
I noticed. I'm all alone...
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| Kolba wrote: | | But seriously, if people started to FUCKING READ THE RULES, BEFORE they do real $$ trades, there wouldn't be such a problem with scammers. |
Why even bother with that shit, no one reads all the rules on this ir any other site... I sure as hell never did and I was a SR MOD here. The bottom line is this site should do whatever it can to promote fair trades, not make it confusing for new people who come here. I understand everyone SHOULD read the rules but face facts, its just NOT gonna happen. Therefore if this site gives a fuck about any new user then it should simply change the name or better yet get rid of the fucking thing all together. The entire basis of member ++ here is fucked, it was a stupid idea from day one. The concept of BUYING a tag is like fucking your cousin. (Sure the pussy is good but you end up with two headed babies).
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| Jessmop wrote: | | Kolba wrote: | | But seriously, if people started to FUCKING READ THE RULES, BEFORE they do real $$ trades, there wouldn't be such a problem with scammers. |
Why even bother with that shit, no one reads all the rules on this ir any other site... I sure as hell never did and I was a SR MOD here. The bottom line is this site should do whatever it can to promote fair trades, not make it confusing for new people who come here. I understand everyone SHOULD read the rules but face facts, its just NOT gonna happen. Therefore if this site gives a fuck about any new user then it should simply change the name or better yet get rid of the fucking thing all together. The entire basis of member ++ here is fucked, it was a stupid idea from day one. The concept of BUYING a tag is like fucking your cousin. (Sure the pussy is good but you end up with two headed babies). |
Hey man sometimes a good cousin fuck can make things better in life. I mean whats wrong with a deformed baby. Dont be such a nudist . You dont have the body for it anyways. Lets make toast !!
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| the_pillo wrote: | can we please stop with this discussion? What is the point of changing it? so that there is one less thing to spend the "useless fg" on? Its a priveledge you can buy, the same concept as a title color, or title name, or name color, or shadow or wtf ever. Its all appearance.. all members ++ does is its like buying an unlimited lock,move,etc thing.
What does member ++ mean?
It means a member that has done a little more than a normal member, either through donation or through repeated trading. in order to afford the 2.5k tag.
By no means are they more trust worthy, they just like to bling out their account.
So if we get rid of members ++ i suggest we get rid of signatures, name shadow and glow, titles, guilds, all of the profile customization, and turn the entire website greyscale.
it all shows trustworthiness and new members could be confused and scammed. |
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| the_pillo wrote: | | the_pillo wrote: | can we please stop with this discussion? What is the point of changing it? so that there is one less thing to spend the "useless fg" on? Its a priveledge you can buy, the same concept as a title color, or title name, or name color, or shadow or wtf ever. Its all appearance.. all members ++ does is its like buying an unlimited lock,move,etc thing.
What does member ++ mean?
It means a member that has done a little more than a normal member, either through donation or through repeated trading. in order to afford the 2.5k tag.
By no means are they more trust worthy, they just like to bling out their account.
So if we get rid of members ++ i suggest we get rid of signatures, name shadow and glow, titles, guilds, all of the profile customization, and turn the entire website greyscale.
it all shows trustworthiness and new members could be confused and scammed. |
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