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Post#61 Posted: 14 Jan 2011 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.d3jsp.org/viewtopic.php?p=761792#761792
There yah go.
Now someone go make it a sticky. tongue
I even made it bold so it would stick out more.

Need some renovations over there with the stickies in that forum.
Way too many = People REALLY not reading them.

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Post#62 Posted: 14 Jan 2011 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nyuu wrote:
http://www.d3jsp.org/viewtopic.php?p=761792#761792
There yah go.
Now someone go make it a sticky. tongue
I even made it bold so it would stick out more.

Need some renovations over there with the stickies in that forum.
Way too many = People REALLY not reading them.


Great start. Nice work. This site has been around for how many years now? About time someone did SOMETHING around here to show some interest in our new members...

Still an actual TAG NAME CHANGE can and could have saved many users from being robbed. Sucks that users care more about this place than those in "power".

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Post#63 Posted: 14 Jan 2011 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jessmop wrote:
Myoga- wrote:
Jessmop wrote:
Myoga- wrote:
Timothy_N wrote:
the_pillo wrote:
when i look at someones profile and they have a title, a name glow, a sweet sig, donor stars, and all the extra frills i think.... wow this person spent REAL money on this stuff.... they must want to keep their account and be an active member of the community. So your arguement is invalid.
When someone has a pimped out profile it makes them look like they spent real money or alot of fg.
And that's what they did do. I don't see a problem with that.

When someone has members++ it makes many newcomers think that they got some type of
trusted tag from the staff team. They seem more trustable than someone who just spent some
fg to buy visual effects, ablity to lock their own threads and avoid flood control.

I don't want the tag removed, only renamed to something that reflects what it is. Or possibly
divided into two different items, avoid flood control and ablility to lock own topics.


the_pillo wrote:
Now, lets stop this retarded ass arguement and get back to having fun smile
Since when is it not fun to discuss how the site can be improved? smile


Because I honestly don't see what needs to be changed about the title. Consider this a life lesson for everyone that gets scammed because they don't read beforehand.



Listen, I have never been scammed here... I am simply sticking up for the new guys who have been scammed. SOME of the reasoning IS because they were confused in thinking Members ++ is trusted which is perfectly valid as 99% of users here have not and will not read every rule AND it means something 100% different on D2jsp (which is where most everyone has originated from) You guys really wanna express how this site is NOT d2jsp yet MANY things are exactly like d2jsp and you expect some new guy to differentiate between it? Its not a big deal to many of us who know that members ++ is basically nothing, it is a big deal when someone loses money over it though and meanwhile all you ass-hats can say is "You should have read the rules"...
Fuck that, you guys should be MORE concerned with doing WHATEVER needs to be done to make shit less confusing and keep site members best interests in mind (even the newbs).
I don't know how many people have be ripped off over this Members ++ shit but I know it's been a fair amount so why not simply change the fucking name instead of being a bunch of twat-waffles? How hard would it be to change it to something like Donor ++ or something along those lines?
Show some fucking backbone and stick up for the new users around here or this site is going to remain stale. I dont wanna be talking to the same old fucktards next year because this site refuses to adapt to simple measures that will improve securtity for new guys.


To make quote "Shit less confusing" how about we copy d2jsp exactly how it is right now? The layout, the setup, the titles and tags, the rules, etc. That way, there is no way in HELL someone will get confused.

Would that please you?


You guys don't have the skills to make a carbon copy of that site either... but sure go ahead and try... it sounds a lot easier than implementing a name change. Are all MODS as brilliant as you lol ? Btw copying MEMBERS ++ from d2jsp is exactly what got us here in this thread. Honestly I would think any MOD would love the idea of anything that would help prevent scams but then again you guys more than likely let a JR MOD do most of you work when it comes to scammer prevention.


You're kidding right? D2JSP is some of the most basic forum software I've ever seen, hell, I don't think anything about it has really changed since it first came out in 02, I've made more advanced forum systems completely from scratch for one of my old clans.

It's so nice to see the true personality of the retired moderators, throwing out implied insults and acting on the "behalf of others". And you know what? I am up for any suggestion that could reduce scamming. But changing one title will cut back on like what, 2 scams? IDGAF what they do to the title, remove it, change it, etc, but if they remove it, they might as well (as the_pillo said) remove every other feature that could promote any type of higher status (name colors, custom titles, etc). Regardless of what we change, or what we do, scammers will come up with a new way to do what they do. Whether you like it or not, that's reality.


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Post#64 Posted: 14 Jan 2011 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Myoga- wrote:
Jessmop wrote:
Myoga- wrote:
Jessmop wrote:
Myoga- wrote:
Timothy_N wrote:
the_pillo wrote:
when i look at someones profile and they have a title, a name glow, a sweet sig, donor stars, and all the extra frills i think.... wow this person spent REAL money on this stuff.... they must want to keep their account and be an active member of the community. So your arguement is invalid.
When someone has a pimped out profile it makes them look like they spent real money or alot of fg.
And that's what they did do. I don't see a problem with that.

When someone has members++ it makes many newcomers think that they got some type of
trusted tag from the staff team. They seem more trustable than someone who just spent some
fg to buy visual effects, ablity to lock their own threads and avoid flood control.

I don't want the tag removed, only renamed to something that reflects what it is. Or possibly
divided into two different items, avoid flood control and ablility to lock own topics.


the_pillo wrote:
Now, lets stop this retarded ass arguement and get back to having fun smile
Since when is it not fun to discuss how the site can be improved? smile


Because I honestly don't see what needs to be changed about the title. Consider this a life lesson for everyone that gets scammed because they don't read beforehand.



Listen, I have never been scammed here... I am simply sticking up for the new guys who have been scammed. SOME of the reasoning IS because they were confused in thinking Members ++ is trusted which is perfectly valid as 99% of users here have not and will not read every rule AND it means something 100% different on D2jsp (which is where most everyone has originated from) You guys really wanna express how this site is NOT d2jsp yet MANY things are exactly like d2jsp and you expect some new guy to differentiate between it? Its not a big deal to many of us who know that members ++ is basically nothing, it is a big deal when someone loses money over it though and meanwhile all you ass-hats can say is "You should have read the rules"...
Fuck that, you guys should be MORE concerned with doing WHATEVER needs to be done to make shit less confusing and keep site members best interests in mind (even the newbs).
I don't know how many people have be ripped off over this Members ++ shit but I know it's been a fair amount so why not simply change the fucking name instead of being a bunch of twat-waffles? How hard would it be to change it to something like Donor ++ or something along those lines?
Show some fucking backbone and stick up for the new users around here or this site is going to remain stale. I dont wanna be talking to the same old fucktards next year because this site refuses to adapt to simple measures that will improve securtity for new guys.


To make quote "Shit less confusing" how about we copy d2jsp exactly how it is right now? The layout, the setup, the titles and tags, the rules, etc. That way, there is no way in HELL someone will get confused.

Would that please you?


You guys don't have the skills to make a carbon copy of that site either... but sure go ahead and try... it sounds a lot easier than implementing a name change. Are all MODS as brilliant as you lol ? Btw copying MEMBERS ++ from d2jsp is exactly what got us here in this thread. Honestly I would think any MOD would love the idea of anything that would help prevent scams but then again you guys more than likely let a JR MOD do most of you work when it comes to scammer prevention.


You're kidding right? D2JSP is some of the most basic forum software I've ever seen, hell, I don't think anything about it has really changed since it first came out in 02, I've made more advanced forum systems completely from scratch for one of my old clans.

It's so nice to see the true personality of the retired moderators, throwing out implied insults and acting on the "behalf of others". And you know what? I am up for any suggestion that could reduce scamming. But changing one title will cut back on like what, 2 scams? IDGAF what they do to the title, remove it, change it, etc, but if they remove it, they might as well (as the_pillo said) remove every other feature that could promote any type of higher status (name colors, custom titles, etc). Regardless of what we change, or what we do, scammers will come up with a new way to do what they do. Whether you like it or not, that's reality.


Oh now it's my personality? No kid its fucking reality, and the reality here is that this site IS a d2jsp ripoff and the majority of the staff pretty much sucks ass with the exception of a few that actually do stuff. Don't tell me any different either because being a retired mod I have access to all the staff bullshit and I see who does and doesnt do things around here. And if my "implied insults" are too much for you tell your Mommy to call the internet police. Anyone who gets bent out of shape by terms like "fuckwad", "ass-hat", or "twat-waffle" is a fucking pussy anyway and belongs in church not on the internet. As far as your "2 scams" goes thats fucking bullshit too, its been dozens. But even if a name change saved TWO scams then it would be worth it... suppose one of those scams was for $200.00 or something ? Theres no need to remove anything but to say that changing the name of it would be a bad thing is pure ignorance. If this site is so fucking easy to code then why not simply change the name? Too much fucking work or too fucking lazy? This has nothing to do with name colors or titles either so whoever thinks that should be wearing a helmet. If "my true personality" is to make the evil empire see the light then so be it. I am just in shock that staff doesnt give a shit about their members. Btw you think that tag of your means anything really? It only means that you were next in line.... I actually have more respect for the JR MODS than MOST of the MODS this place has ever had...
Your job as a MOD is to HELP NOT HINDER.


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Post#67 Posted: 14 Jan 2011 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jessmop wrote:
Myoga- wrote:
Jessmop wrote:
Myoga- wrote:
Jessmop wrote:
Myoga- wrote:
Timothy_N wrote:
the_pillo wrote:
when i look at someones profile and they have a title, a name glow, a sweet sig, donor stars, and all the extra frills i think.... wow this person spent REAL money on this stuff.... they must want to keep their account and be an active member of the community. So your arguement is invalid.
When someone has a pimped out profile it makes them look like they spent real money or alot of fg.
And that's what they did do. I don't see a problem with that.

When someone has members++ it makes many newcomers think that they got some type of
trusted tag from the staff team. They seem more trustable than someone who just spent some
fg to buy visual effects, ablity to lock their own threads and avoid flood control.

I don't want the tag removed, only renamed to something that reflects what it is. Or possibly
divided into two different items, avoid flood control and ablility to lock own topics.


the_pillo wrote:
Now, lets stop this retarded ass arguement and get back to having fun smile
Since when is it not fun to discuss how the site can be improved? smile


Because I honestly don't see what needs to be changed about the title. Consider this a life lesson for everyone that gets scammed because they don't read beforehand.



Listen, I have never been scammed here... I am simply sticking up for the new guys who have been scammed. SOME of the reasoning IS because they were confused in thinking Members ++ is trusted which is perfectly valid as 99% of users here have not and will not read every rule AND it means something 100% different on D2jsp (which is where most everyone has originated from) You guys really wanna express how this site is NOT d2jsp yet MANY things are exactly like d2jsp and you expect some new guy to differentiate between it? Its not a big deal to many of us who know that members ++ is basically nothing, it is a big deal when someone loses money over it though and meanwhile all you ass-hats can say is "You should have read the rules"...
Fuck that, you guys should be MORE concerned with doing WHATEVER needs to be done to make shit less confusing and keep site members best interests in mind (even the newbs).
I don't know how many people have be ripped off over this Members ++ shit but I know it's been a fair amount so why not simply change the fucking name instead of being a bunch of twat-waffles? How hard would it be to change it to something like Donor ++ or something along those lines?
Show some fucking backbone and stick up for the new users around here or this site is going to remain stale. I dont wanna be talking to the same old fucktards next year because this site refuses to adapt to simple measures that will improve securtity for new guys.


To make quote "Shit less confusing" how about we copy d2jsp exactly how it is right now? The layout, the setup, the titles and tags, the rules, etc. That way, there is no way in HELL someone will get confused.

Would that please you?


You guys don't have the skills to make a carbon copy of that site either... but sure go ahead and try... it sounds a lot easier than implementing a name change. Are all MODS as brilliant as you lol ? Btw copying MEMBERS ++ from d2jsp is exactly what got us here in this thread. Honestly I would think any MOD would love the idea of anything that would help prevent scams but then again you guys more than likely let a JR MOD do most of you work when it comes to scammer prevention.


You're kidding right? D2JSP is some of the most basic forum software I've ever seen, hell, I don't think anything about it has really changed since it first came out in 02, I've made more advanced forum systems completely from scratch for one of my old clans.

It's so nice to see the true personality of the retired moderators, throwing out implied insults and acting on the "behalf of others". And you know what? I am up for any suggestion that could reduce scamming. But changing one title will cut back on like what, 2 scams? IDGAF what they do to the title, remove it, change it, etc, but if they remove it, they might as well (as the_pillo said) remove every other feature that could promote any type of higher status (name colors, custom titles, etc). Regardless of what we change, or what we do, scammers will come up with a new way to do what they do. Whether you like it or not, that's reality.


Oh now it's my personality? No kid its fucking reality, and the reality here is that this site IS a d2jsp ripoff and the majority of the staff pretty much sucks ass with the exception of a few that actually do stuff. Don't tell me any different either because being a retired mod I have access to all the staff bullshit and I see who does and doesnt do things around here. And if my "implied insults" are too much for you tell your Mommy to call the internet police. As far as your "2 scams" goes thats fucking bullshit too, its been dozens. But even if a name change saved TWO scams then it would be worth it... suppose one of those scams was for $200.00 or something ? Theres no need to remove anything but to say that changing the name of it would be a bad thing is pure ignorance. If this site is so fucking easy to code then why not simply change the name? Too much fucking work or too fucking lazy? This has nothing to do with name colors or titles either so whoever thinks that should be wearing a helmet. If "my true personality" is to make fuckwads see the light then so be it. You think that tag of your means anything really? It only means that you were next in line.... I actually have more respect for the JR MODS than MOST of the MODS here.
Your job as a MOD is to HELP NOT HINDER.


Seems like I got your panties in a bunch didn't I? Keep pushing the title's name change, see how long it takes for tramway or happyguy to change it, cause you sure as hell know NONE of us can do ANYTHING about it. Fuck, we could give you back your SM tag and you wouldn't be able to change it either anyways.

And it's not the fact that I'm lazy, its the fact that;

1. I don't own this site, I don't have direct access to things like that without hacking my way in
2. It honestly doesn't concern me?
3. IT'S STILL THE USERS DAMN FAULT!

If you don't read a manual, EXPECT SOMETHING TO GO WRONG.


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Post#68 Posted: 14 Jan 2011 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Myoga- wrote:
Jessmop wrote:
Myoga- wrote:
Jessmop wrote:
Myoga- wrote:
Jessmop wrote:
Myoga- wrote:
Timothy_N wrote:
the_pillo wrote:
when i look at someones profile and they have a title, a name glow, a sweet sig, donor stars, and all the extra frills i think.... wow this person spent REAL money on this stuff.... they must want to keep their account and be an active member of the community. So your arguement is invalid.
When someone has a pimped out profile it makes them look like they spent real money or alot of fg.
And that's what they did do. I don't see a problem with that.

When someone has members++ it makes many newcomers think that they got some type of
trusted tag from the staff team. They seem more trustable than someone who just spent some
fg to buy visual effects, ablity to lock their own threads and avoid flood control.

I don't want the tag removed, only renamed to something that reflects what it is. Or possibly
divided into two different items, avoid flood control and ablility to lock own topics.


the_pillo wrote:
Now, lets stop this retarded ass arguement and get back to having fun smile
Since when is it not fun to discuss how the site can be improved? smile


Because I honestly don't see what needs to be changed about the title. Consider this a life lesson for everyone that gets scammed because they don't read beforehand.



Listen, I have never been scammed here... I am simply sticking up for the new guys who have been scammed. SOME of the reasoning IS because they were confused in thinking Members ++ is trusted which is perfectly valid as 99% of users here have not and will not read every rule AND it means something 100% different on D2jsp (which is where most everyone has originated from) You guys really wanna express how this site is NOT d2jsp yet MANY things are exactly like d2jsp and you expect some new guy to differentiate between it? Its not a big deal to many of us who know that members ++ is basically nothing, it is a big deal when someone loses money over it though and meanwhile all you ass-hats can say is "You should have read the rules"...
Fuck that, you guys should be MORE concerned with doing WHATEVER needs to be done to make shit less confusing and keep site members best interests in mind (even the newbs).
I don't know how many people have be ripped off over this Members ++ shit but I know it's been a fair amount so why not simply change the fucking name instead of being a bunch of twat-waffles? How hard would it be to change it to something like Donor ++ or something along those lines?
Show some fucking backbone and stick up for the new users around here or this site is going to remain stale. I dont wanna be talking to the same old fucktards next year because this site refuses to adapt to simple measures that will improve securtity for new guys.


To make quote "Shit less confusing" how about we copy d2jsp exactly how it is right now? The layout, the setup, the titles and tags, the rules, etc. That way, there is no way in HELL someone will get confused.

Would that please you?


You guys don't have the skills to make a carbon copy of that site either... but sure go ahead and try... it sounds a lot easier than implementing a name change. Are all MODS as brilliant as you lol ? Btw copying MEMBERS ++ from d2jsp is exactly what got us here in this thread. Honestly I would think any MOD would love the idea of anything that would help prevent scams but then again you guys more than likely let a JR MOD do most of you work when it comes to scammer prevention.


You're kidding right? D2JSP is some of the most basic forum software I've ever seen, hell, I don't think anything about it has really changed since it first came out in 02, I've made more advanced forum systems completely from scratch for one of my old clans.

It's so nice to see the true personality of the retired moderators, throwing out implied insults and acting on the "behalf of others". And you know what? I am up for any suggestion that could reduce scamming. But changing one title will cut back on like what, 2 scams? IDGAF what they do to the title, remove it, change it, etc, but if they remove it, they might as well (as the_pillo said) remove every other feature that could promote any type of higher status (name colors, custom titles, etc). Regardless of what we change, or what we do, scammers will come up with a new way to do what they do. Whether you like it or not, that's reality.


Oh now it's my personality? No kid its fucking reality, and the reality here is that this site IS a d2jsp ripoff and the majority of the staff pretty much sucks ass with the exception of a few that actually do stuff. Don't tell me any different either because being a retired mod I have access to all the staff bullshit and I see who does and doesnt do things around here. And if my "implied insults" are too much for you tell your Mommy to call the internet police. As far as your "2 scams" goes thats fucking bullshit too, its been dozens. But even if a name change saved TWO scams then it would be worth it... suppose one of those scams was for $200.00 or something ? Theres no need to remove anything but to say that changing the name of it would be a bad thing is pure ignorance. If this site is so fucking easy to code then why not simply change the name? Too much fucking work or too fucking lazy? This has nothing to do with name colors or titles either so whoever thinks that should be wearing a helmet. If "my true personality" is to make fuckwads see the light then so be it. You think that tag of your means anything really? It only means that you were next in line.... I actually have more respect for the JR MODS than MOST of the MODS here.
Your job as a MOD is to HELP NOT HINDER.


Seems like I got your panties in a bunch didn't I? Keep pushing the title's name change, see how long it takes for tramway or happyguy to change it, cause you sure as hell know NONE of us can do ANYTHING about it.
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Seems like I got your panties in a bunch didn't I? Keep pushing the title's name change, see how long it takes for tramway or happyguy to change it, cause you sure as hell know NONE of us can do ANYTHING about it. Fuck, we could give you back your SM tag and you wouldn't be able to change it either anyways.

And it's not the fact that I'm lazy, its the fact that;

1. I don't own this site, I don't have direct access to things like that without hacking my way in
2. It honestly doesn't concern me?
3. IT'S STILL THE USERS DAMN FAULT!

If you don't read a manual, EXPECT SOMETHING TO GO WRONG.



The only panties around here are of my girlfriends. Google "girlfriend" for more information if need be.
You seem to be so concerned with keeping Members ++ as is when clearly it has presented itself to be an issue time and time again. You say "two" I say dozens. Regardless the solution is not "READ THE RULES" especially when rules get changed around here all the time. The bottom line is that Staff comes off as unsympathic to people getting scammed here. A simple measure of precaution would be an obvious name change of the misleading Members ++ to something like Donor ++. It only proves one thing if it doesnt happen and that is that this site doesnt care about new users and scams. If this didn't concern you to begin with why voice your opinion as to why Members ++ Tag is so fucking wonderful the way it is? Also I see things a bit differently I guess, sure ultimately if someone gets scammed its their fault BUT d3jsp COULD help things out a bit by making simple changes. I don't see why that gets under your skin or anyone elses. Isn't the goal here to make things better?
If nothing changes than nothing changes.... I know that Mods/Sr Mods/Staff cannot do anything without ADMINS. And you should know that without change this site will keep failing. And you CAN do something about it too, if you kids were not so scared of getting those fag tags taken you could stick up for new users and help prevent confusion/scams without just being callous assholes and quoting "Read the Rules" by speaking up for new members as I do. I am sick of the same people here and this site is not going anywhere, why not do something to change it?


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Seems like I got your panties in a bunch didn't I? Keep pushing the title's name change, see how long it takes for tramway or happyguy to change it, cause you sure as hell know NONE of us can do ANYTHING about it. Fuck, we could give you back your SM tag and you wouldn't be able to change it either anyways.

And it's not the fact that I'm lazy, its the fact that;

1. I don't own this site, I don't have direct access to things like that without hacking my way in
2. It honestly doesn't concern me?
3. IT'S STILL THE USERS DAMN FAULT!

If you don't read a manual, EXPECT SOMETHING TO GO WRONG.



The only panties around here are of my girlfriends. Google "girlfriend" for more information if need be.
You seem to be so concerned with keeping Members ++ as is when clearly it has presented itself to be an issue time and time again. You say "two" I say dozens. Regardless the solution is not "READ THE RULES" especially when rules get changed around here all the time. The bottom line is that Staff comes off as unsympathic to people getting scammed here. A simple measure of precaution would be an obvious name change of the misleading Members ++ to something like Donor ++. It only proves one thing if it doesnt happen and that is that this site doesnt care about new users and scams. If this didn't concern you to begin with why voice your opinion as to why Members ++ Tag is so fucking wonderful the way it is? Also I see things a bit differently I guess, sure ultimately if someone gets scammed its their fault BUT d3jsp COULD help things out a bit by making simple changes. I don't see why that gets under your skin or anyone elses. Isn't the goal here to make things better?
If nothing changes than nothing changes.... I know that Mods/Sr Mods/Staff cannot do anything without ADMINS. And you should know that without change this site will keep failing.


Look, I'm sorry if I'm coming off harsh, but there is honestly nothing, literally nothing I can do (well actually there is, and I'm thinking about it) other then saying to read the rules. What else would you like me to do? Users are already getting locked and scammer tagged / banned and topics are getting closed. That pretty much sums up everything the mods can do.

The reason why I'm sticking up for it? I'm not necessarily sticking up for it, I've said a number of times, change it as you please, but even if we make it Donor++ or something else people will still use it to their advantage.

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Post#71 Posted: 14 Jan 2011 01:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jessmop wrote:
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Seems like I got your panties in a bunch didn't I? Keep pushing the title's name change, see how long it takes for tramway or happyguy to change it, cause you sure as hell know NONE of us can do ANYTHING about it. Fuck, we could give you back your SM tag and you wouldn't be able to change it either anyways.

And it's not the fact that I'm lazy, its the fact that;

1. I don't own this site, I don't have direct access to things like that without hacking my way in
2. It honestly doesn't concern me?
3. IT'S STILL THE USERS DAMN FAULT!

If you don't read a manual, EXPECT SOMETHING TO GO WRONG.



The only panties around here are of my girlfriends. Google "girlfriend" for more information if need be.
You seem to be so concerned with keeping Members ++ as is when clearly it has presented itself to be an issue time and time again. You say "two" I say dozens. Regardless the solution is not "READ THE RULES" especially when rules get changed around here all the time. The bottom line is that Staff comes off as unsympathic to people getting scammed here. A simple measure of precaution would be an obvious name change of the misleading Members ++ to something like Donor ++. It only proves one thing if it doesnt happen and that is that this site doesnt care about new users and scams. If this didn't concern you to begin with why voice your opinion as to why Members ++ Tag is so fucking wonderful the way it is? Also I see things a bit differently I guess, sure ultimately if someone gets scammed its their fault BUT d3jsp COULD help things out a bit by making simple changes. I don't see why that gets under your skin or anyone elses. Isn't the goal here to make things better?
If nothing changes than nothing changes.... I know that Mods/Sr Mods/Staff cannot do anything without ADMINS. And you should know that without change this site will keep failing.


Look, I'm sorry if I'm coming off harsh, but there is honestly nothing, literally nothing I can do (well actually there is, and I'm thinking about it) other then saying to read the rules. What else would you like me to do? Users are already getting locked and scammer tagged / banned and topics are getting closed. That pretty much sums up everything the mods can do.

The reason why I'm sticking up for it? I'm not necessarily sticking up for it, I've said a number of times, change it as you please, but even if we make it Donor++ or something else people will still use it to their advantage.


No need to apologize to me for anything...
I do however think if staff got on board with this suggestion perhaps Nick or Tram would see that its the right thing to do, I surely dont plan on voicing my opinions anywhere but here in this Battlefield anymore though as its pretty much an exercise in futility. However I do believe that ANYTHING that helps new users and helps prevent scams is a good thing. Not everyone is going to stick around after being robbed here and this site needs all the support it can get in case no one else has noticed. Earlier in this very thread someone mentioned how they get pm'd all the time asking for trade mediation simply because of the association with having a Members ++ tag, so, obviously its a failure on more than one level. I know exactly what staff can and cannot do, I was staff here before everyone except Tyrael and Rina. I disagree with your thoughts that changing the name to Donor ++ would have the same negative results as the current name does as well. But to each his own I suppose...

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Post#72 Posted: 14 Jan 2011 01:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the TLDR here is


Jessmop: Defend new users against a problem that is easily fixable
Myoga: Fuck that it's their fault they didn't read
Jessmop: So be it, that doesn't mean as a site we can't take precautions to encourage growth/respect of this site
Myoga: Fuck that it's their fault they didn't read
Basi: **bangs head on wall**


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Post#73 Posted: 14 Jan 2011 02:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This discussion cost me 2500 fg...
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Post#74 Posted: 14 Jan 2011 02:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This discussion cost me 2500 fg...


If anything happens I imagine it would simply be a name change (if anything at all), I wouldnt worry about your abilities to lock your own threads bud... it will always be there in some shape or form.

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Post#75 Posted: 14 Jan 2011 02:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basi wrote:
So the TLDR here is


Jessmop: Defend new users against a problem that is easily fixable
Myoga: Fuck that it's their fault they didn't read
Jessmop: So be it, that doesn't mean as a site we can't take precautions to encourage growth/respect of this site
Myoga: Fuck that it's their fault they didn't read
Basi: **bangs head on wall**


Not much else I can say rofl... I can't change it without going to drastic measures rofl

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Jessmop wrote:
Vassago wrote:
This discussion cost me 2500 fg...


If anything happens I imagine it would simply be a name change (if anything at all), I wouldnt worry about your abilities to lock your own threads bud... it will always be there in some shape or form.

MyMember = ++++++++++++++++++++++


I wouldn't bother locking my own thread to begin with and I've never even ran into flood control.
That's why I never used a members++ before.

Myoga- wrote:
Not much else I can say rofl... I can't change it without going to drastic measures rofl


Then just change mine "wink" "wink".


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Post#77 Posted: 14 Jan 2011 02:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Jessmop"][quote="Myoga-"][quote="Jessmop"][quote]Seems like I got your panties in a bunch didn't I? Keep pushing the title's name change, see how long it takes for tramway or happyguy to change it, cause you sure as hell know NONE of us can do ANYTHING about it. Fuck, we could give you back your SM tag and you wouldn't be able to change it either anyways.



Hmm I guess we will have to wait and see then....
I will bet you it will be changed and therefore another victory for the "little guys".

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