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ye I Have Herpes
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#21 Posted: 18 Aug 2011 07:50 am Post subject: |
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It doesn't matter if it would be confidential. Humans are flawed. You are blurring the lines between the virtual world and the real world. I call people faggots, niggers, assholes, and whatever else I please on here because I know that shit can't be traced back to me.
I don't know if any of you remember this, but njaguar actually emailed someone's boss because njaguar and the dude disagreed on a subject in the religion forum.
If you require people to prove they are worthy of using a site that barely has 200 users a day, you are going to scare away 95% of anyone who is trying to join. _____________________
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#22 Posted: 18 Aug 2011 08:24 am Post subject: |
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Make another line - YES _____________________
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happyguy44 Lulz
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#23 Posted: 18 Aug 2011 09:33 am Post subject: |
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it wouldn't be required its just a choice
also i personly would make sure that it isn't allowed to use the info for anything except the verification |
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#24 Posted: 18 Aug 2011 05:54 pm Post subject: |
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If you require people to prove they are worthy of using a site that barely has 200 users a day, you are going to scare away 95% of anyone who is trying to join. |
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ye I Have Herpes
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#25 Posted: 19 Aug 2011 02:12 am Post subject: |
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| Vitan wrote: | | ye wrote: |
If you require people to prove they are worthy of using a site that barely has 200 users a day, you are going to scare away 95% of anyone who is trying to join. |
This is your opinion, might be true. |
You are asking the legit users to prove they are legit users by jumping through hoops. At one point you aren't protecting the legit but you are rather punishing them.
And what about all the users that have signed up before this is instituted? Do they need to get verified, or does being a member for nearly 10 months mean you are trustworthy? *cough* http://www.d3jsp.org/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=9851 *cough*
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#26 Posted: 19 Aug 2011 06:19 am Post subject: |
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well it seems pretty obvious to me everyone would default as not verified how could a person be verified at the beginning ye
also im pretty sure this isn't a TRUST TAG its just to verify your a person _________________ This user's signature has been disabled |
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#27 Posted: 19 Aug 2011 09:09 am Post subject: |
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I agree the S/T section has a lot of flaws but I don't think this is the right approach.
-Emails/facebooksaccounts etc can be faked. cellphones can use prepaid cards etc. It's not possible to make sure the person is who he/she claims to be.
-A scammer that goes through the process would probably look more trustworthy than other "non verified legit users" and be able to pull off bigger scams.
-Even if you know the identity of the person it doesn't protect you against chargebacks or stolen giftcards etc.
-If you do a trade involving virtual items/services you can never prove you delivered the item to the right person. They can always claim non-delivered or unauthorized (if they used proxy). If they ain't able to do it through, for example, paypal they can still do it through their bank.
-Moderators on this site are more trusted than other users, but in the end you can't trust anyone you don't know personally when it involves real money/identities. Circumstances might change for a normally trustworthy person as well, forcing them to do things they don't want to... |
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#28 Posted: 19 Aug 2011 11:09 am Post subject: |
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fucking fail d3jsp still trying to get rid of scammers?
why? 80% of your community are scammers
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#29 Posted: 19 Aug 2011 01:32 pm Post subject: |
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| @peanut the main deatils here are phone + picture verifying is verifing its a person i haven't posted full details here however it would be very hard if not impossible for the same person to get 2 verifyed accounts ( without a friend to verify the second one for him ) |
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#30 Posted: 19 Aug 2011 01:38 pm Post subject: |
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Well frankly, the net is totally overfilled with pictures of people...facebook, youtube, twitter etc. A picture simply wouldn't prove anything. Maybe if you had them hold a paper with the date and nickname written when they take the picture...
If the same moderator called everyone and remembered everyones' voices the phonethingy could work ofc. But I doubt that's possible.
But let's say it would work...what would it solve?
Scammers would most likely be more eager than anyone to get a verified tag to look more trustworthy. And even if you knew the identity it wouldnt protect against chargeback scams. |
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#31 Posted: 19 Aug 2011 02:33 pm Post subject: |
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the point is to prevent things in teh future and they would be requried to have there internet name written on something in the pic that was stated
as for the phone bit its more to keep a list of number already verifyed a person couldnt be verifed agian if the number had already been used twice and its kinda hard to go just buy a phone just for it also we could record the phone call for the voice to comapre if we were suspicous
at first yes all scammers could get verifyed once ( as it isn't a trusted tag )
but then if they scammed and got locked getting it a second time would be hard without a friend to help them which often scammers don't have |
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#32 Posted: 19 Aug 2011 02:36 pm Post subject: |
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Good idea...except the phone number part.
That's just...a tad bit over the top for the internet...don't you think?
Other than that, GG. |
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#33 Posted: 19 Aug 2011 06:53 pm Post subject: |
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#34 Posted: 23 Aug 2011 07:57 am Post subject: |
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I do not understand what this is  _________________ This user's signature has been disabled |
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#35 Posted: 23 Aug 2011 10:25 am Post subject: |
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a clear _yes_ from me, i just got scammed by 200 $ and feel crap about it -,- this tag would help many users to trade legitly _____________________
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#36 Posted: 23 Aug 2011 01:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Cory wrote: | Good idea...except the phone number part.
That's just...a tad bit over the top for the internet...don't you think?
Other than that, GG. |
well yeah you could do without the phone number _____________________
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#37 Posted: 23 Aug 2011 05:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Uchiha Itachi wrote: | | Cory wrote: | Good idea...except the phone number part.
That's just...a tad bit over the top for the internet...don't you think?
Other than that, GG. |
well yeah you could do without the phone number |
That's just a bit too hardcore for my liking. |
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#38 Posted: 24 Aug 2011 01:08 am Post subject: |
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Phone number grr. _____________________
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#40 Posted: 25 Sep 2011 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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lets do this. _____________________
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